Curse

Warvic · Jan 11, 2010, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Im recently doing this with a friend. He has GW since 2005 but he never played it much. He wan't to do ALL quests etc. So that's what we did. We just left pre sear after doing all the quests. And now in old ascalon he also want's to do all the quests.

I'm like argh.. I just want a run to lion arch, get to eotn. complete it.. get overpowered pve skills. get some nice 1337 armour, load up a nice build via pvxwiki and go easymode with sabway trough all campains.. oh wait.. I did that before.. that's not fun at all.

I did buy armour/skills via storage money tho. Maybe il use some tomes.. not sure yet.

fyi, I play this game since 2005, and I'm not planning to do much more in pve. But I play this charakter with him because it's really alot more fun to play together.

FoxBat · Jan 11, 2010, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Try this without any hench/heroes (ie true solo), that's actually somewhat interesting. I also don't take advantage of account unlocks when buying skills. You should also avoid trader NPCs, as they are basically selling items from other players.

Shadow Slave · Jan 11, 2010, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Now if it were possible to still form groups to tackle prophecies (i.e. explorable areas as well as missions) like in those good ol days, then perhaps this would be appealing.

If you could rally together a bunch of guys from your guild to do this with,then sure, why not.

However - groups do not form and people wanting to redo prophecies 'for kicks' are few and far between.

Thus, you'd be required to H/H pretty much the whole campaign....and that would be balls.

(This stems from a personal hatred of H/H - Pugs all the way. Much more 'fun'.)

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 11, 2010, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Shadow Slave

(This stems from a personal hatred of H/H - Pugs all the way. Much more 'fun'.)

A hatred of H/H? I'll explain to you a bit of our rationale behind H/H.

I would play with PUGs if...

...you bothered to educate yourselves about the game.
...you listened when I gave you a decent build to run.
...you didn't draw random shit on the compass.
...you accepted my class in groups.
...you knew how to play the game half-decently.
...you didn't run shitty builds.

Not to mention some of us like to take breaks.

luwe80 · Jan 11, 2010, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Yes, my most fond memories are from PUG'ing through Prophecies. The game was magical back then. I usually H/H it if there's no guildies available as it gets the job done faster and more efficient. Still, I hope there's no heroes in GW2 so I'm forced into sometimes annoying, sometimes fun PUGs that at least are always different and fresh. Pro has the best story line, it feels a little dragged out but that's cause everyone wants to just get through it quickly and there's few people who still play it.

Pleikki · Jan 11, 2010, 05:34 AM // 05:34

Ive been wondering do this for ages but cba buying prophs only acc for this, then it would be way cooler. Do everything without any help of Friends also!

and also

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* You must buy your skills, no tomes, no elite tomes. Nothing.

Make it more intresting and you must CAP all normal skills also. So only skill you would be allowed buy is skill capture..

Goddess Of Defense · Jan 11, 2010, 05:46 AM // 05:46

make a character on any campaign, but only WAND you can't use skills but only WAND... see how far you get got this from an old guild I was in.

QueenofDeath · Jan 11, 2010, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by iTzF3aR

Getting bored ?
Starting to find Guild Wars a drag ?
Want a challenge ?

Well, recently I felt the same feelings. Yes, it has been like this for awhile, I understand. But, I discovered a new gameplay that can take your mind's off of whining on GWG about how dead this game is, or how ectos are going in price, and of course, the impending SF-nerf.

If you have the character slot and need a new profession to play try doing this: Playing prophecies. BUT!!! to make it more fun play it as it was before the other games out.

RULES

* You must buy your skills, no tomes, no elite tomes. Nothing.
* Any armor, weapon, etc you want to buy must come from the gold you get from your character.
* Try making it interesting, do not unlock your xunlai storage.
* Any drop you get you can use, as long it didn't come from anything out of Prophecies.
* No leaving prophecies until you complete it!
* You must not be ran to any other outpost/city/or mission. Play it through!

Anyways, in all seriousness, I have been trying this and it has gotten my mind off of whining or trolling. Also, it is quite a challenge, good for those who do enjoy such things. Also, to make it less lonely, try bringing your friend along, just do it to have fun and enjoy Guild Wars.

We call that ironman rules but I would change it even more. You CANNOT BUY ANYTHING. Everything you use in the game you must have found in the game not buy it from someone else. Buying makes it too easy. Thus you would be more likely to use collectors gear all along the way instead of cheating it up to level 20 gear with your money. Having to get collectors gear will certainly take you a long time and not an easy task.

Scary · Jan 11, 2010, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTzF3aR

Getting bored ?
Starting to find Guild Wars a drag ?
Want a challenge ?

Well, recently I felt the same feelings. Yes, it has been like this for awhile, I understand. But, I discovered a new gameplay that can take your mind's off of whining on GWG about how dead this game is, or how ectos are going in price, and of course, the impending SF-nerf.

If you have the character slot and need a new profession to play try doing this: Playing prophecies. BUT!!! to make it more fun play it as it was before the other games out.

RULES

* You must buy your skills, no tomes, no elite tomes. Nothing.
* Any armor, weapon, etc you want to buy must come from the gold you get from your character.
* Try making it interesting, do not unlock your xunlai storage.
* Any drop you get you can use, as long it didn't come from anything out of Prophecies.
* No leaving prophecies until you complete it!
* You must not be ran to any other outpost/city/or mission. Play it through!

Anyways, in all seriousness, I have been trying this and it has gotten my mind off of whining or trolling. Also, it is quite a challenge, good for those who do enjoy such things. Also, to make it less lonely, try bringing your friend along, just do it to have fun and enjoy Guild Wars.

Really, after..what is now, goin to allmost 5 years of playing GW ok few
months to go. And than make a new char and do Prophecies the old way.
Men couldn't be bored more.

No if you want me happy, just make the droprate as it where in the old days.
no dmn lootscaling etc.

Turbo Ginsu · Jan 11, 2010, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

A hatred of H/H? I'll explain to you a bit of our rationale behind H/H.

I would play with PUGs if...

...you bothered to educate yourselves about the game.
...you listened when I gave you a decent build to run.
...you didn't draw random shit on the compass.
...you accepted my class in groups.
...you knew how to play the game half-decently.
...you didn't run shitty builds.

Not to mention some of us like to take breaks.

^^ Quoted for truth.

No offence to the many experienced, and indeed many more experienced than me players out there, but it doesn't take more than 3 pugs who bought their copy of GW from a friend, complete with all outposts, uber armor, and obsidian-edged chaos thong in your group before you realise that you-just-can't-tell!

Patrisha MacFarlane · Jan 11, 2010, 08:28 AM // 08:28

I'm doing this on a necro in Factions, and an Ele on my second account in Proph... Afraid I haven't made much progress on either in the last couple years.

Cool Down · Jan 11, 2010, 09:27 AM // 09:27

I have just started a new character which i will play through the campaigns in the order they came out, so no hardcore factions, nightfall or eotn skill's to my new character

Falkin · Jan 11, 2010, 10:05 AM // 10:05

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Originally Posted by iTzF3aR

True, but how many players *actually* do it ?

I'm with you

. I have made a prophecies elemantalist some time ago, and I am planning to go with these restrictions when I'm done cartographng elona on my main.
If finding groups is absolutly impossible I might go get some heroes, but im hopping I dont have too.

/signed the list of gamer who miss the game the way it were before heroes, before pve skills, before all that soloing the game with h/h

darksuzaku · Jan 11, 2010, 10:41 AM // 10:41

To make rule 1 more similar to what it used to be profecies, besides not allowing tomes of any kind, purchasing skills should be also a little restricted. I mean, now when you go to a skill trader you find all the skills unlocked available for purchase (core + campaign). That would be too easy. Only skills allowed should be the ones that the particular NPC offers originally.

For example, you shouldn't be able to purchase Meteor Shower until you arrive to Kryta (Captain GreyWind has it). Not applying this rule means you could could purchase it on Old Ascalon if you already have it unlocked, meaning you could initially have your uber profecies build ready (except the elite of course).

McMullen · Jan 11, 2010, 11:46 AM // 11:46

I've been doing this with an ele with a prophecies only account, so far it's been interesting and at times bollock twistingly annoying. I'm upto Ice Caves of Sorrow right now and managed to get some max armour, still using a poor weapon though.
Also, several runes and insignias weren't available during prophecies.
Survivor, radiant, attunement, vitae and clarity I think.

Shadow Slave · Jan 11, 2010, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

A hatred of H/H? I'll explain to you a bit of our rationale behind H/H...

Er, thanks for the explanation - I'm well aware of the pitfalls of Pug'ing..

As I pointed out, H/H have ruined the game (imo) so that people just dont pug anymore. Which is completely understandable - some people want to just fly through the game with their adapted Heroes and be done with it.
More power to you if that's how you want to play the game.

But once you've already completed something (or even on my first attempt), I dont see what's enjoyable about rolling over all mobs with npcs and zooming to the end - H/H aren't exactly the most 'social'. Zzzzz

Also - there is the outside chance you get...you know...a GOOD pug.

Shasgaliel · Jan 11, 2010, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Did it a few times. It is fun till sanctum or so. Anyway I would rather get new content than play the same content again.

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 11, 2010, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by Shadow Slave

As I pointed out, H/H have ruined the game (imo) so that people just dont pug anymore.

Hey, before heroes, we used only henchmen.

If it weren't for the AI, a lot of us wouldn't play at all.

Ruined the game? To the contrary, Guild Wars would not have survived without it.

bsoltan · Jan 11, 2010, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Do this and try to get survivor as well, also only get armour from collectors.

I've created the character 3 times now, first two I died in Magumma Jungle. -_-

Shadow Slave · Jan 11, 2010, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Hey, before heroes, we used only henchmen.

If it weren't for the AI, a lot of us wouldn't play at all.

Ruined the game? To the contrary, Guild Wars would not have survived without it.

You're completely right.

Sorry, I'll rephrase:

H/H ruined PvE for me...and I'm sure others like me.

Not having to play with a bunch of NPCs is what attracted me to MMORPGs.

Hence, PvP is the way forward.